Its good to graduate. Ha! [quote] "However, if she had died in stead of Montieth, I don't think it would have hurt the show in the same way.". You couldn't have Finn go to NY and try to make it in Broadway. So, we went to them and asked, What do you think about this? The audience loved him right away. She should've stayed with the series until the end. I remember on one challenge Cameron gave Glee regular Mary Gillis (Mrs. Hagberg - or the dance instructor, Doris Klinghagen, in Drop Dead Gorgeous!) But it keeps me off the streets, er, out of the Aaron Rodgers threads, so I count it as a plus. Each season features roughly the same cast but with a different setting and premise. At least in the first season, the songs seemed carefully chosen to reflect the character's current emotional state. Murphy does not know how to end a series. ): Transexual, Transylvania, Transvestite. "Love Child", delivered during Christmas, by a trans character playing Mary, giving birth to a black baby Jesus in a sequin diaper, Lion King-style, in staging deliberately meant to provoke the outspoken Christian in the room. It would have remained an ensemble revolving around the whole group. [quote]Poor Chris Colfer believed his press, believed that he was a beloved star, and believed he was going to have a fantastic post-Glee career. Murphy took a thinly veiled swipe at Colfer in American Horror Story. moment'? There was a BI that Lea Michele and Colfer wanted to get Criss fired, which item had the fingerprints of Criss fangurls all over it. When I look at my four-year old Oh my god, I used to act like that, I used to throw tantrums and I was 38.". R168 Are you really still mad Chris didnt see Hedwig lol? Brad the Piano Player finally grows some balls after being bossed around by a bunch of teenagers and kills him. Eat Pray Love had come out and I remember thinking, "Oh, they're totally going to have Julia Roberts for a flashback as Kurt's mom.". [Quote] Didn't stop her from a brow job and having her jaw shaved down. No patience in the writing. He himself says he was just interested in bigger guest stars and more over the top shtick. I dunno how this was a punishment. I went to like, a CVS, and bought a straightener and straightened it at Starbucks.". I'm really surprised he Jacob Artist was in an Araki project and avoided being nude though. She's in Novitiate with Melissa Leo, which has been getting awards buzz (for Leo) and will be released this Fall. [11] Sarandon said, "It just felt like it didn't have a context, just being bitchy and kind of funny, but what else? R333 could you elaborate on that? R176 No, Chris Colfer is secretly straight! [quote]how did they make fun of her on The New Normal? I wish he had not died. Peace. For me it was entertaining enough, but I stopped watching after the episode where they deal with Finn's death and Kurt goes all meta and is wagging the finger at the audience for being way too interested in how he died. The first 13 episodes were written in a bubble, once they had the actors and the characters set. Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies. WebRyann Murphy. Ryan Murphy was referring to Chris Colfer there, who said exactly that. Or! It was all Murphy's fault. We all know the rumors that Ryn Mrphy hated Chris and Dianna, but does anyone know why, and when did he start to hate them? However, Murphy clearly decided to go in another direction. Murphy assembled a top rank supporting casting, including Stanley Tucci as studio boss Jack Warner. Does this mean that hubby Winston Marshall is one of ours? Ryan Murphy, a gay man, came up with Glee, and wasn't going to have a gay kid as a character? It's no secret she and Murphy hated each other. According to the actors manager, his Twitter account was actually hacked by someone who thought itd be a fun pre Independence Day prank. I want to know who was fucking who & what kind of drugs everyone was doing. But where does it rank in the context of his previous accomplishments? This could be one of the reasons why they fell off. Remember when Rachel & Kurt broke into the Gershwin theater to see where Wicked was performed? With what his Hedwig run grossed, no wonder he had to run back on to Ryan Murphy's dick for a part. I do think that chris was not 'bullied' but something approaching that on set but that this may have been more from lea with nobody intervening, which naya refers to in her book and chris endorsed. r489 Was the hiatus due to Naya's death? The "Glee" Superbowl ep was a few episodes after Darren had his debut, and already then it was decided they wanted Darren Criss in the Superbowl and reworked the episode at the last minute to include him and give him a performance. Still waiting for that original Broadway role? Didn't stop her from a brow job and having her jaw shaved down. Mostly this narrative with Chris is just nonsense because for some reason Chris fans want to pretend her was really mistreated on the show. Colfer was making a ton of money off his children's books alone back when Glee was on. it seems to me that dianna was just acting to the best of her ability within the material given and early on this made quinn appear more vulnerable because evidently she wasn't just flat when e.g. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. Samuel Larsen (dirty dreadlock Jesus) and Damian McGinty were kind of co-winners of the first season, and were each promised seven episodes. At least it ended when it did and didn't overstay its welcome like Friends and Modern Family. Oh my god, I never even realized that Quentin from Coven was a dig at Colfer. Prior to this news, first reported byDeadline, it wassaid thatFeudseason two would focus on the divorce between Princess Dianaand Prince Charles. After we hyped the Lea Corey showmance for most of the show until even hardcore Glee fans got sick of it!". I can only imagine it wasn't a one of our Great American Controversies because no one was still watching the show at this point. Judy Davis, Jackie Hoffman, Alfred Molina, Stanley Tucci, and Alison Wright feature in supporting roles. Real or fictional character? Literally the day before the pilot was to start shooting creative went to sign Diana. why was Ashley Fink dropped from the cast after her season? [61] The various defendants filed a motion to dismiss under California's "anti-SLAPP" law. And you never hear about that. [16], Frequent Murphy collaborator Jessica Lange and Susan Sarandon were attached to star as Joan Crawford and Bette Davis in Feud. Colfer never or rarely mentioned Murphy during the second half of Glee. Diana's meeting did not go well, her vision for Quinn was not at all what Ryan wanted.. Ryan wanted a bitchy waspy cheerleader queen bee mean girl, and Diana wanted to humanize and empower Quinn, which was in conflict with the arc they wanted to give Lea's Rachel, etc. [R156] I don't think money is the issue for both of them, but no matter how much money Colfer got he'll never be on Broadway and that's eating him every day and that's why he's so jealous of Darren. That is nowhere more to the fore than in this celebration of African and Latino LGBTQ and gender-non-conforming ballroom culture in Eighties and Nineties New York. Ryan wn't generally cast blonde male leads. [13] Bette and Joan was inspired by the real-life feud between Crawford and Davis,[13] and explores issues of sexism, ageism, and misogyny in Hollywood. Apparently, Taylor Swifts Tour Merch Looks Like That on Purpose, The Universe Is Conspiring Against Joaquin Phoenix, The Trump Indictment Puts the GOP in an Impossible Trap. He's a total nobody, as evidenced by his career before and after Glee and the fact that no one even knew his name DURING Glee. Murphys television often has a marmite quality. Take a look at Not Kurt. He could never have pulled it off. But wait, he dated Blaine? It was one of the better Puck storylines that only make him more likeable. Naya sounds like cheap Christmas trash. "I'm just a Sweet Transvestite from Sensational, Transylvania" I think they also cut the line "No matter gay, straight, or bi, Lesbian, transgendered life" from the Laday Gaga / "Born This Way" number in another episode, but that might have due to time restraints. It looks like we won't be getting Ryan Murphy's take on the royal family after all. What about the ones who think they're secretly a couple? [quote]but Cory was that perfect block of wood. When the network ordrred the second half of the first season, some things were retooled, including pregnancy subplots. R214 his father is country songwriter Paul Overstreet, so he and his siblings grew up playing instruments. Yeah, Cory embodied the boy-next-door, corn-fed, all-American jock (despite his being Canadian). Fucking ridiculous. That alone deserves him a push into a grease fire pit. r348. The original boys were kind of meh. I remember all the behind the scenes rumors and drama here on DL, it sounded a lot more entertaining on set than the actual show ever was. [quote]There were many boys on our show that didn't get along. I think a lot of that was informed by their youth and being involved in a phenomenon. R1: Their beef wasn't as bad as Lea and Naya but there was no chemistry there and you could just tell that they weren't cordial behind the scenes. His Instagram was inundated with nasty comments for the longest time. Theres a career-best turn from Emma Roberts as an alpha mean girl, while Ariana Grande demonstrates her acting chops as she is bumped off early in season one. He said he banned sex in the cast trailers. So did the black dancer from Season 1 who they couldn't think up a character for. Murphy: I think that some of those actors representatives spun it in a certain way, to be quite honest, I dont understand. [quote]Did Murphy originally want to turn Rachel/Kurt In NYC into a separate series? [quote] He couldn't even get another Murphy project after Glee. He's a very talented writer, but when he has no one to rein him in, he goes too crazy trying to outdo himself. There's even speculation that the Quentin Fleming on American Horror Story is a subtle dig at Colfer. The idiot freaked out because he would have to kiss a girl on camera, which is so bizarre, has he ever watched any movie or TV show. And Naya was ready for them to do a diner scene and she was on her mark with her lines ready and nobody else was, and one of the producers was just chilling on a diner stool and she went up to him and was like Wheres the rest of the scene? To be honest, they don't even like the term "transvestite.". Especially if Naya really had made a play for Di when they went to England in May '12, as Taylor may be lamenting in "Come Back, Be Here". They all stopped watching it, and the show disappeared. When Chris was given more opportunities than anyone on the show with his being able to write an episode (Naya and Jenna were also interested in script writing), remaining a lead through out the run unlike most of the original cast, and being considered for second lead in the spin-off. R144 Lea is a big fag hag. Such an underrated show. It were only two seasons. Not before. Her and Swifty appear to have gone farther, with Taylor alluding to having proposed marriage in "Stay, Stay, Stay", but it's alleged that TS's management shot that down. Rachel pining for Finn could've been spread over a whole season and created a lot of interesting plots. and for them. Which stories, R115? And then it sure seemed like Agron was fucking Taylor Swiftand then had a nasty breakup. They had huge egos though. Director Bradley Buecker Writers Ryan Murphy Brad Falchuk Ian Brennan Stars Chris Colfer Darren I guess all the tragedies, behind the scenes drama, and Lea Michele's cuntiness makes syndication or any sort of limited series revival difficult. R381: Didn't most of the cast get their roles from the casting couch? [quote]The first season reminded me very much of the movie, "Election" - the same slightly dark undertone and feel. Where Feud was all snark and spite, Hollywood is dreamy wish fulfilment on a pogo-stick. The Lea/Morrison hookup was common knowledge among Broadway/theater people -- long before the rest of the US discovered them in GLEE. It sure seemed as though Agron and Lea were involved early on in the run and then had a nasty breakup. Murphy tried for a spinoff, focused on Rachel, but it got shot down. R309 Ok, first of all, Chris has dated at least one guy who was in the closet and he's good friends with a few actors who are still in the closet. How could Darren and Chris have made that pact if they didn't start on GLEE at the same time? while not exactly wrong, I wouldn't be surprised if (once certain fans stopped hating dianna - S1 was wild) the fans took this up and twisted it to be personal when other hints of tension on the set came out. They must not realize the guy he dresses up with in couples costumes is his boyfriend, R316 Glee has been over for two years and that group still think Chris is using his "boyfriend" of 4+ years as a beard to protect Darren. I have no clue what r33 is talking about. "[56] Emily Nussbaum, in The New Yorker, praised Murphy's ambition and lauded both stars, saying of the series, "Beneath the zingers and the poolside muumuus, the show's stark theme is how skillfully patriarchy screws with women's headsmostly by building a home in there. His film projects have gone nowhere: the Noel Coward film, the Indigo tv series, The Land of Stories film adaptation. Becca Tobin only rehired because her fianc died and Lea Michelle "helped" her by using her as a PR stunt. He has a sparkling reputation and literally no one who has worked with him has ever had anything negative to say. I hope he goes back to acting when he's still good looking enough to get cast in something. Screen casting unknowns is different to stage casting unknowns. He set her up to look ridiculous by feeding her the idea that she was the next Streisand. Kurt is just replaced by a different actor with no explanation. Heather Morris will probably try to downplay her past for the DWTS cameras or she will say that she hasn't danced in years because of her kids. Ryan Murphy wanted her out, and Quinn became homeless, a punk, a baby snatcher, a paraplegic, and a fake-lesbian, until she finally stopped showing up altogether. Things you buy through our links may earnVox Mediaa commission. Maybe she'll turn him gay! I think Ryan better not. She was all trying to cultivate a model celeb wife and mother image for the past few years since Glee. By then, the show had become a phenomenon, and the soundtrack for the first half of the season was a bestseller. R378 It's cool that you disagree, but you have to remember the initial plan for the show. He'd probably rather fuck the hunky guys. And you never hear about that. [quote]I'll have you know I am a featured star of ABC's fabulous new miniseries, "When We Rise," [R11]! when it comes to storylines. But that was their loss. 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Prior to this news, first reported byDeadline, it wassaid thatFeudseason two would focus on the divorce between Princess Dianaand Prince Charles. After we hyped the Lea Corey showmance for most of the show until even hardcore Glee fans got sick of it!". I can only imagine it wasn't a one of our Great American Controversies because no one was still watching the show at this point. Judy Davis, Jackie Hoffman, Alfred Molina, Stanley Tucci, and Alison Wright feature in supporting roles. Real or fictional character? Literally the day before the pilot was to start shooting creative went to sign Diana. why was Ashley Fink dropped from the cast after her season? [61] The various defendants filed a motion to dismiss under California's "anti-SLAPP" law. And you never hear about that. [16], Frequent Murphy collaborator Jessica Lange and Susan Sarandon were attached to star as Joan Crawford and Bette Davis in Feud. Colfer never or rarely mentioned Murphy during the second half of Glee. Diana's meeting did not go well, her vision for Quinn was not at all what Ryan wanted.. Ryan wanted a bitchy waspy cheerleader queen bee mean girl, and Diana wanted to humanize and empower Quinn, which was in conflict with the arc they wanted to give Lea's Rachel, etc. [R156] I don't think money is the issue for both of them, but no matter how much money Colfer got he'll never be on Broadway and that's eating him every day and that's why he's so jealous of Darren. That is nowhere more to the fore than in this celebration of African and Latino LGBTQ and gender-non-conforming ballroom culture in Eighties and Nineties New York. Ryan wn't generally cast blonde male leads. [13] Bette and Joan was inspired by the real-life feud between Crawford and Davis,[13] and explores issues of sexism, ageism, and misogyny in Hollywood. Apparently, Taylor Swifts Tour Merch Looks Like That on Purpose, The Universe Is Conspiring Against Joaquin Phoenix, The Trump Indictment Puts the GOP in an Impossible Trap. He's a total nobody, as evidenced by his career before and after Glee and the fact that no one even knew his name DURING Glee. Murphys television often has a marmite quality. Take a look at Not Kurt. He could never have pulled it off. But wait, he dated Blaine? It was one of the better Puck storylines that only make him more likeable. Naya sounds like cheap Christmas trash. "I'm just a Sweet Transvestite from Sensational, Transylvania" I think they also cut the line "No matter gay, straight, or bi, Lesbian, transgendered life" from the Laday Gaga / "Born This Way" number in another episode, but that might have due to time restraints. It looks like we won't be getting Ryan Murphy's take on the royal family after all. What about the ones who think they're secretly a couple? [quote]but Cory was that perfect block of wood. When the network ordrred the second half of the first season, some things were retooled, including pregnancy subplots. R214 his father is country songwriter Paul Overstreet, so he and his siblings grew up playing instruments. Yeah, Cory embodied the boy-next-door, corn-fed, all-American jock (despite his being Canadian). Fucking ridiculous. That alone deserves him a push into a grease fire pit. r348. The original boys were kind of meh. I remember all the behind the scenes rumors and drama here on DL, it sounded a lot more entertaining on set than the actual show ever was. [quote]There were many boys on our show that didn't get along. I think a lot of that was informed by their youth and being involved in a phenomenon. R1: Their beef wasn't as bad as Lea and Naya but there was no chemistry there and you could just tell that they weren't cordial behind the scenes. His Instagram was inundated with nasty comments for the longest time. Theres a career-best turn from Emma Roberts as an alpha mean girl, while Ariana Grande demonstrates her acting chops as she is bumped off early in season one. He said he banned sex in the cast trailers. So did the black dancer from Season 1 who they couldn't think up a character for. Murphy: I think that some of those actors representatives spun it in a certain way, to be quite honest, I dont understand. [quote]Did Murphy originally want to turn Rachel/Kurt In NYC into a separate series? [quote] He couldn't even get another Murphy project after Glee. He's a very talented writer, but when he has no one to rein him in, he goes too crazy trying to outdo himself. There's even speculation that the Quentin Fleming on American Horror Story is a subtle dig at Colfer. The idiot freaked out because he would have to kiss a girl on camera, which is so bizarre, has he ever watched any movie or TV show. And Naya was ready for them to do a diner scene and she was on her mark with her lines ready and nobody else was, and one of the producers was just chilling on a diner stool and she went up to him and was like Wheres the rest of the scene? To be honest, they don't even like the term "transvestite.". Especially if Naya really had made a play for Di when they went to England in May '12, as Taylor may be lamenting in "Come Back, Be Here". They all stopped watching it, and the show disappeared. When Chris was given more opportunities than anyone on the show with his being able to write an episode (Naya and Jenna were also interested in script writing), remaining a lead through out the run unlike most of the original cast, and being considered for second lead in the spin-off. R144 Lea is a big fag hag. Such an underrated show. It were only two seasons. Not before. Her and Swifty appear to have gone farther, with Taylor alluding to having proposed marriage in "Stay, Stay, Stay", but it's alleged that TS's management shot that down. Rachel pining for Finn could've been spread over a whole season and created a lot of interesting plots. and for them. Which stories, R115? And then it sure seemed like Agron was fucking Taylor Swiftand then had a nasty breakup. They had huge egos though. Director Bradley Buecker Writers Ryan Murphy Brad Falchuk Ian Brennan Stars Chris Colfer Darren I guess all the tragedies, behind the scenes drama, and Lea Michele's cuntiness makes syndication or any sort of limited series revival difficult. R381: Didn't most of the cast get their roles from the casting couch? [quote]The first season reminded me very much of the movie, "Election" - the same slightly dark undertone and feel. Where Feud was all snark and spite, Hollywood is dreamy wish fulfilment on a pogo-stick. The Lea/Morrison hookup was common knowledge among Broadway/theater people -- long before the rest of the US discovered them in GLEE. It sure seemed as though Agron and Lea were involved early on in the run and then had a nasty breakup. Murphy tried for a spinoff, focused on Rachel, but it got shot down. R309 Ok, first of all, Chris has dated at least one guy who was in the closet and he's good friends with a few actors who are still in the closet. How could Darren and Chris have made that pact if they didn't start on GLEE at the same time? while not exactly wrong, I wouldn't be surprised if (once certain fans stopped hating dianna - S1 was wild) the fans took this up and twisted it to be personal when other hints of tension on the set came out. They must not realize the guy he dresses up with in couples costumes is his boyfriend, R316 Glee has been over for two years and that group still think Chris is using his "boyfriend" of 4+ years as a beard to protect Darren. I have no clue what r33 is talking about. "[56] Emily Nussbaum, in The New Yorker, praised Murphy's ambition and lauded both stars, saying of the series, "Beneath the zingers and the poolside muumuus, the show's stark theme is how skillfully patriarchy screws with women's headsmostly by building a home in there. His film projects have gone nowhere: the Noel Coward film, the Indigo tv series, The Land of Stories film adaptation. Becca Tobin only rehired because her fianc died and Lea Michelle "helped" her by using her as a PR stunt. He has a sparkling reputation and literally no one who has worked with him has ever had anything negative to say. I hope he goes back to acting when he's still good looking enough to get cast in something. Screen casting unknowns is different to stage casting unknowns. He set her up to look ridiculous by feeding her the idea that she was the next Streisand. Kurt is just replaced by a different actor with no explanation. Heather Morris will probably try to downplay her past for the DWTS cameras or she will say that she hasn't danced in years because of her kids. Ryan Murphy wanted her out, and Quinn became homeless, a punk, a baby snatcher, a paraplegic, and a fake-lesbian, until she finally stopped showing up altogether. Things you buy through our links may earnVox Mediaa commission. Maybe she'll turn him gay! I think Ryan better not. She was all trying to cultivate a model celeb wife and mother image for the past few years since Glee. By then, the show had become a phenomenon, and the soundtrack for the first half of the season was a bestseller. R378 It's cool that you disagree, but you have to remember the initial plan for the show. He'd probably rather fuck the hunky guys. And you never hear about that. [quote]I'll have you know I am a featured star of ABC's fabulous new miniseries, "When We Rise," [R11]! when it comes to storylines. But that was their loss. This 9-1-1 spin-off is set in Austin Texas and stars Rob Lowe as a firefighter captain battling lung cancer (sustained when he charged into the Twin Towers on 9/11), Liv Tyler as a paramedic captain, and Ronen Rubinstein as Lowes gay son and recovering opioid addict. Oddly enough, I don't remember Smash ever having that "you gotta see this!" Ryan Murphy Admits 'Glee' Should Have Ended When Its 'Spirit of Joy' Left After Cory Monteith's Death Kevin McHale Calls 'The Price of Glee' Docuseries Trash: 'Don't Make Me Speak on This Again' 
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